PvP sucks. People leave.

for a 4 month old game. yes. dead. There's more people playing the orginal NBA Jamz circa 1993.

26 people on fleet at the moment seems like it's pretty dead to me...

Too bad they spent four years preparing for fail at launch by spending a total of what seems like 2 months on Ilum/Open World PvP. Too bad they didn't listen to the Alpha/Beta testers who all said Ilum was going to fail becuase of its flawed design. Too bad they didn't listen/read the hundreds of very good concepts and recommendations on how to fix Open World PvP here on the forums. Too bad that they have run out of time with the GW2 PvP juggernaut looming. Just too bad...

This is EXACTLY it. Sad, but I really think this game is going to fail worse that Warhammer.

Yup...myself and all of my PvP buds are just holding out for GW2....filling time with this game. I like the game, the issue is that the model Bioware is filling (4 Small Instanced WZ's) is just not what we are looking for in PvP. I also don't see them coming up with a open world pvp fix for a while. Seriously though...there isn't really even a need for what the call "PvP" servers. I saw like 20 TOTAL opposite factions as I was leveling. GW2 is the closest thing you are going to find for true OWPvP.

Just do what me and half of my pvp server plans on doing... ...leave for GW2. It is your only hope if you truly like a well designed PvP game. I'm afraid that this game will never be that for most. The Devs are just clueless.

********. I thought I would bring this here because I am not the only one seeing it. nevermind...not worth it

I know resolve has never worked as well as we have wanted it to, but I'm telling you after today's patch, I am chain stunned more than ever. This is after about an hour of testing PvP. Alot of people on our server in general chat have mentioned it. Have you guys experienced this?

I honestly agree with OP...there needs to be a power drain poison

Because they are showing ZERO direction towards Open World PvP. People want it, and Bioware just ignores them/us. Will be the downfall of this game.

Drop your Expertise to ~500. Substitute Rakata gear...as far as stealthers being OP'd...I play an infiltration shadow because I believe thats what the class was designed to do...trust me, I am not OP'd.

I honestly believe that there needs to be some direction/insight with their plans for OPvP. Give us something, anything to look forward to, as well as to let us know that you are hearing us. I have heard nothing on the subject, which is what scares me the most.

Please wise up and realize that ALOT (not all I know) are longing for Open World PvP. It is what many of us play MMO's for. I know it's been said a hundred gazillion times on these forums, but I just feel this game has the opportunity to be a great one if we could have a true Open World PvP experience. I know we do not know of future plans for 1.2 and so forth, but for the love of all of your PvP fan base, please don't make this a WZ only MMO. The reason I say this is because it seems with the current patch notes, unforunately this is the direction this game seems to be heading. Other games are coming out Bioware, and you WILL lose people because of this...please right the ship soon

Go watch IGN's WvW video from "That other Game" beta weekend and you can see why this game's pvp is dying/dead. That game puts this one to shame as far as PvP design is concerned. Bioware's non-focus on end game pvp has been its downfall. People wanna PvP in today's age. Period.

Biggest problem I have realized today that grinding for BM gear is not worth it. You can do just as well with a piece or two of BM/champ/rakata. I have ZERO incentive to pvp. First time since release that I am actually considering unsubbing.

Then enjoy your 3 operations for the next 6 months, with nothing else to do with your time.

100% bored with end-game pvp. What Bioware has FAILED to understand is...this is not 2006. People prefer to pvp>pve. I don't think it can be saved tbh. They have been too slow to react and people are going to leave for GW2. May come back later but I doubt it.

I'd be happy with two things: 1. Mana/Power Drain posion/attack. 2. Big opener from stealth. That would make my infiltration shadow complete. (Tank healers with unlimited power healing is just broken. 1 minute staying alive...sure...3 minutes...gotta go.)

16 BM bags here. 1 BM Commendation.

yep just in red

NO VALOR GAINED Tortanic this is. GW2 is gonna totally smash this game if they cant pull their heads outta you know where

I commend the OP. At least they were TRYING to open world pvp in a chit game that frowns on it. Game is dying because people are bored to tears of Ilum and WZs, and IMO, SWTOR Devs are too ignorant and too hesitant to change things before their demise.

If I have to bore myself with Ilum after the end of March I will quit. If they change things and add more open world pvp content, I will be back. I just have nothing to do, and Ilum has gotten so old to us now that we have no desire to go anymore. There needs to be true open world pvp in this game or it will die. I really dont understand what the devs are thinking. Almost everything you read on these forums states that they have had it with the state of end game pvp in SWTOR. If I were a dev I know that this would be my main priority...not new WZs or ranking systems.

yup...