I think there are alot of people who expect way too much out of a game. I would also love to hear about these "other games" with much better PvP? I've played wow, warhammer, aion, and rift. SWTOR's pvp is better than all of them. Is it 10x better? no, but it's better. 1-49 is some of the funnest pvp I've seen. This imaginary game you guys think is out there, with PvP nirvana night after night, simply does not exist.