I don't think they "stole" anything.The way im reading the hirelings thing is that they will be pretty much a "list" item similar to STO`s crew missions thing only you will be able to see them/chat with them in your garrison. I don't thing they are anything like companions in this game. And the garrison thing does seem interesting but really its probably just a souped up version of the Panda farms.Its just another form of player housing but nothing really special.Otehr games like Rift and EQ2 still have better more personalized housing systems. Ive got got a couple off 90`s in wow as well as many toons in the lvl 80 range,,played since release day but have taken breaks along the way of course...but WoW is a game that's really showing its age now. Wow`s lore is so tired that now they have to actually travel back in time for a full expansion...and to make iit even more pathetic they are bringing back the Space Bulls to the front page It all seems pretty /yawn

Umm..pvp in Guildwars always has been top notch in both class balance and gear balance..GW2 Is the same way.Now Im talking structured pvp not world zergfest...of which there is NO mmo out there that has good world pvp that isint just a zergfest. As for SWTOR`s pvp it has alot to be desired,I would say its one of the worst of all the mmos...pretty much on par with lolpvp in EQ2.The lack of class balance,premades queing with pugs,LOLfaction class balance and of course the great game engine they have for this game make for quite the craptastic pvp experience. I do like the story lines and PVE in this game though,,actually I would say it ranks amongst the top mmos for pve experience..well for the theme park mmos at least.

News flash!! Stong pvp class playing on easymode pvp faction does well in 100 warzones! Seriously though.Nice recording system.But how bout doing 50 rounds on each faction playing a middle of the road class and its mirror...

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Yup!..I wont be playing FTP either.... Subbed back up last week;)

Umm..sorry but its taken me less than 24 hrs of playtime at lvl 50 to obtain pretty much full t1 to 1.5 gear.Mix of Champ pieces,Columni and a cpl of centurion. After playing wow since its release(still subbed),rift,lotro and a host of other mmos to varying levels of end game,SWTOR is by far the easiest to get geared at endgame...well for me it has been.

Wow subs= 8 mil from china far east 3 mi from west/states Tor 2 mil from west/states..not released in far east as far as I know... Roughly speaking of course

OK..well when we can do preform rated teams,ill put together my 8 leapsters/speedsters and see how everyone likes that...

Thats what ive heared as well,im saving bags up till after patch..

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Yeah,its Warhammer online all over again... Get to lvl 40 rr 40 or so,,then get farmed/assraped while you grind your rr up. Though I think they have finally fixed alot of that problem.Now that they are down to 2 servers.....

Yeah,,only problem with the "high pop" part is that the population is ALL on the imp side..like it is on many servers... Seriously,,if you want challenging and ACTIVE pvp,,roll republic.

Actually,leaving a wz when your team is clearly outmatched isnt always a bad thing IF you are a low lvl,or "just another dps" when what your team really needs is heals.There is a fair chance(especially in the case of low lvls) that your replacement may actually be an improvement to your team.Ive done it on my lowbie toons when I see that im really not able to contribute with the class that I brought into the fight. I know ive come into a game on my mid 40s toon when we were down a bit and ended up winning the game,not due to my "mad skillz" though as im quite mediocre really,lol..but likely due to the team needed a bit more dps or more survivable players. Pvp still has along ways to go with swtor,and I do believe that there will be penalties imposed for leaving as well as afking while in the wz..but at this point they need to address the game performance and some of the apparent class imbalances first.

For any game that requires a flag,ball,shard or whatever item it may be,to be carried by a player to a target location,there needs to be some restrictions on the abilities the ball carrier can use.Otherwise you will have formed teams of specific classes just to carry the ball thus screwing all others out. IMO the ball carrier should not be able to use any leap,pull,speed buff,immune shielding or cc/root immune ability and doing so causes them to drop the ball when the ability is activated.Now normal use of a cc break ability is fine.CC/root DR should be in effect and allowed as well.

Ever heard of "Raid or Die"? Expertise is in game to keep hardcore raiders from pwning all in WZ`s. Most mmos have something along the same lines..

If you would cancell your sub due to the bad pvp the game has to offer,then you started playing it for the wrong reasons. The pvp was never boasted to be a main feature of the game,,the story driven character developement was the main feature..a very pve feature. Dont get me wrong,I was really hoping the pvp here would be good,but all im seeing is a very laggy mess in the warfronts.And the bolstered warfronts are pretty lol.But im willing to give BW time to work on this.Ill just be doing the "Main" game while they do:) Overall I think the pvp the game released with could be worse,,hell rem WoW didnt even have any battlgrounds at release,and the lag in the early TM/SS fights in Hillsbrad was terrible even crashing the server at times...

Im having major lag issues as well.Playing Trooper commando and seems like most all of my abilities have way more than the 1.5 gcd on them,,sometimes it seems its 3-4 secs till an ability fires. My ping is showing at around 100 or so,and have no problems in groups outside the warzones. Cant really comment on class balances as I dont really care at this piont,thats an issue for lvl cap.I do see more problems with the bolster system though,seems that any lvl 20+ toon is much harder to deal with when only low teens are in your group.Once again,to me the real pvp doesnt start till lvl cap anyway. The Warzones themselves are fun and diverse,I especailly like Huttballl:) Ive been an avid wow pvper since that game released and am really hoping SWToR works out as a new pvp home for me.Theres no sence in trying to compare the games either as wow has been optimized and gone through extensive balancing over the years and SWTOR has just begun.Just hope they get the lag issues dealth with by the time I get to the cap.