http://www.torhead.com/ability/1Vv05N7/triage The talent adds the possibility to remove MENTAL effects So, exactly, how do you remove FORCE based dots again... sir? Istant cast are not going to keep you alive by themselves or you are grossly overestimating them, HoTs CRITS for around 950ish with over 500 bonus healing and if you are moving the only way to gain upperhand/tactical advantage is from the rng AND icd based hot proc As soon as you try to cast the main heal, it gets interrupted and you are... well not in a good position Sure you can bait/fake cast but that only really works against clueless players A competent player will lock UM/KI completely crippling any kind of reliable healing

Operatives can remove force based dots now? REALLY? And you dare saying L2P? TECH - PHYSICAL - MENTAL, thats what you get

Because marauders dont have their own snare, they dont have charge, they dont have predation Dodge is to be used if you want to vanish otherwise dots will prevent you from doing so, and cloaking screen absorbs less than 3000 damage with a 45s reuse time Either you are facing people who faint on their keyboards or i dont know how you can write this stuff

Im completely shocked that people believe its "the hardest healer to kill" while its the exact opposite Interrupt the main heal = dead operative But then again people interrupt my Diagnostic Scans and have trouble outdpsing the superduper hots so i shouldnt be that surprised I find it hilarious that both the Op/sc specs only shine against incompetent players

How come no psychic barrier? How do you sustain your force pool in high pressure situations? Noble sac isnt really that viable in those cases Not sure, seems like a decent support spec but im not convinced

Yes i can definitely counter that You dont know the name of the spells and hardly know how those classes work (force regen is a fixed 8 force per second, just so you know) So WHY exactly an inexperienced player like you should be able to pose a threat to a much more experienced player just by playing at random? Learn what you should to to counter them and your efforts will have more success

What spell are you interrupting, exactly? And what about the other 2 guys? And even if you used no interrupts at all, are you doing no damage? Or are you, in fact, lying? Im willing to bet money that Op/Scoundrels will remain the worst pvp healers even if they were, somewhat, buffed, mostly quality of life stuff Their biggest issue(s) were left unattended

Mar/Sents are totally hard to play so dont reroll unless you are some kind of super skilled rocket scientist

Just posted a very similar build in the sorc boards, glad im not the only one who is actively preparing for the end of days I think 21 points in the healer tree for the channel are a given, we are going to rely on it even more than we do now, given its decent hps and hpf

To be honest i feel Revivification is grossly overrated in pvp - i mean, its extremely powerful, especially in a Voidstar, but with my current 27/12/2 i can reach the KB root that improves my survivability _drastically_ But yes, you are right, we will probably be overall less effective than a BH, even if they get nerfed aswell

With that out of the way... i've been looking at potential new pvp specs: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#201GGMRbd0zZf0rr0MrZ0z.1 The first one has lightning effusion, subversion, bubble blind, 6s jolt, kb root and 20s force speed, while keeping corruption up to innervate, unfortunately had to sacrifice 1 point in WotS and penetrating darkness, so you end up having roughly 40ish less bonus healing... in current gear The second one... i dont have it yet: I wanted to check if something could be done with Sith Efficacy so we could spam FS during low burst periods to regain some force but i cant seem to make out anything decent that does not lose stuff here and here

Yeah, i agree with the above poster Force Bending double dipping was overpowered, theres no doubt about it, THAT should have been removed and the free tap toned down (but not removed completely) Think about it: How many times do you use the free tap in a middle node fight or a voidstar? Yep, a lot, the class was intended to be used like that, sure the net gain was too much, so tone it down? Make the free life taps only give 50% force or something like that? The corruption tree has now NO force regen talents other than the -30% to DI on resurgence wich obviously end up becoming not viable in pvp Lets face it, in pve, it doesnt really change THAT much, you just have to pay more attention, in pvp is potentially class breaking, sure time will tell and deal with it etc etc, the experience i racked up with the class just makes me worried

Do you not have all your skills yet? Operatives/Scoundrels are indeed overpowered in the lower bracket... but thats not really a meter for balancing the classes In bis gear Sent/Mars currently dominate the dps scene while retaining the best survivability cooldowns (with a fairly low reuse time, if i may add), i dont see how this is even in argument OP/SCs dominate undergeared and inexperienced people, is that your problem? But i guess most Sents/Mars are superior skilled players

Well we still cant copy our chars can we? Only the guilds who applied to test raid bosses had their chars copied afaik, so the feedback will be minor and mostly pve related, while unfortunately its pvp who gets hit hardest Also the fact that they both nerfed Sorc's and Merc's healing output makes me think it was a very deliberate, yet hasty and not well thought decision

Urgh i wanted to post a nice reply but this sentence here just killed any interest in doing so You are playing a class so good its unreal it staying in its current state, with an ungodly amount of defensive cooldowns and nonsense-high sustained dps, yet operatives are "awesome" because you can burst down a severely undergeared squisher with the use of a situational WZ expertise buff and consumables? Please dont do this Yeah keep patting yourself on the back