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  1. This has been answered in another thread, so i will put the answer here http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=139297 But here is a quote from the thread if you dont want to go read 10 pages. Credit goes to Makoto_Shishio
  2. Probably not, if you are interested i would recommend reading the EU books, but if you don't have time/money to do so then check out wookipedia
  3. ^This^ I love how people discount EU Vader, but then want to compare him against an EU character like Revan. You either count all EU or none (whether you like it or not). If you count EU, you see Vader was stronger, improved in his suit and covered his weaknesses by improving his lightsaber form. If you don't count EU there is no Revan.
  4. He was already lost by that point, of course you would never go that far. But he had become Darth Vader at that point, he succumbed to the dark side when he cut off Windus arm.
  5. Its a game. They are not going to make a game where you can't beat the last boss.
  6. Which also means that Vitate never existed so that means this discussion is pointless. Vitate is EU which doesn't exist to GL, only the movies do
  7. Hence the tragedy of Darth Vader, he does it all to save her and then loses both her and himself to darkness
  8. Vitate will never be more powerful than Sidious Sidious is the creation of George Lucas. Vitate is the creation of bioware, a 3rd party company. Lucas will never allow a character created by someone else to be stronger than who he has said is the most powerful Sith ever.
  9. He was torturing Luke, he wasn't using the lightning at the full power. He used it at full once Vader picked him up, and where just about everyone else would have fallen over straight away he threw him down the exhaust port.
  10. Well GL says Sidious is the strongest, and as you said its his galaxy. If you read the novel the force lightning was bending his lightsaber and he was losing his grip. He only stopped the force lightning because Anakin showed up.
  11. I think Dooku thought he would be captured or they would turn Anakin together. You can see his shock when Palpatine makes Anakin do it. And i think Palpatine uses it as a means to draw Anakin to the dark side. He kills Dooku, feels bad about it but Palpatine convinces him that it has helped the situation, that it is better now the galaxy is free of Dooku. Slowly turning him to the idea of the dark side and going further than the Jedi would.
  12. Yeah in the movies he comes across like that, but i blame the director for that. The actors have proven themselves in other movies, yet seem to do a really poor job for star wars. IMO the tragedy of Darth Vader that Lucas wanted to tell is much more apparent in the novelizations.
  13. Why are you talking about pre-mustafar Vader. That is not what this thread is about. The thread is about Vader vs Revan both in their prime. Vader is in his prime in his suit. So your not counting EU??? Ok Vader wins because Revan doesn't exist. You can't count EU for one character and not the other.
  14. Yes i think that is 100% right. I try and look at it from his point of view. He has dreams about the love of his life dying. He needs guidance for this. He can't go to the Jedi as they don't allow marriage He goes instead to someone that he has known since he was a young boy. Sidious then manipulates him and makes him see the dark side as the only way to gain the power to save the life of the women he loves. He is only ever trying to save Padme. He is just manipulated by Sidious into turning to the dark side. He basically sells his soul to the devil without realising, in order to try and save her. I think by mustafar he is already too far gone to even realise what he is doing. And i think it would happen to most people in the same case. I know if my wife was in danger i would do anything to save her.
  15. How do you get that??? Because Revan used the light and dark side?? So did Vader he was a Jedi at one point as well. Is it because you saw Revan do awesome stuff that Vader didn't do in the movies??? They were made in the 70's/80's they didnt have the technology to do awesome force powers. Vader is superior to Revan, Revans abilities were shown better because he was in a game from the late 90s early 2000s as apposed to a movie from the 70s but he would still lose.
  16. 1. This is approved by George Lucas himself, but please feel free to argue against the creator of the series. And Sidious and Vader are the result of thousands of years of the rule of two, where the apprentice surpasses the master each time. How could anyone from as long ago as Revan stand a chance? I get you got to play him in KOTOR, but that doesn't make him some massively powerful jedi that can beat anyone else. 2. Well if we aren't counting EU for Vader then it isn't fair to count EU for Revan, its like saying who would win in a drag race? car 1 or car 2. oh but car 1 can't use wheels. You count all EU or none of it. As you are disgarding EU for Vader, you must therefore be doing the same for Revan, which means he doesn't exist therefore there is no contest. 3. Read the novelizations of the movies. They were published before the movies were made and go into detail about that.
  17. How is this even a thread?? Yoda lost the first time because Sidious was more powerful. A rematch wouldn't change the result
  18. Loved them all Were the best games Love most star wars games in fact, would love to see a battlefront 3, but i never will
  19. Yes facts, its a made up story but there is still facts, it is still documented, and there is still canon material that settles arguments like this. Something like this from Rhyltran that proves Sidious was stronger
  20. Palpatine was immortal, he mastered Force Essence Transfer. Palpatine was the result of 1000 years of the rule of two. Every time the apprentice surpased the master and became stronger. Palpatine learnt from a stolen Jedi Holocron. He knew both sides of the force, and he is confirmed by George Lucas himself to be the strongest Sith Lord. As for Vader, yes he lost potential but he still got stronger in his suit not weaker and would stomp Revan.
  21. Please watch Star Wars again, use your brain and come back then Vader never went all out against Luke Vader is stronger than when he lost to Obiwan Starkiller is game canon, he was a character created for a game. What would be the point if at the end of the game he lost. Luke trained for 4 years as a Jedi, it wasn't just one movie after another. There was time in between.
  22. Id probably go for preds due to cloaking and infa-red vision But if Karen Traviss wrote it the Fetts would win with one shot as soon as the fight started
  23. I hate her attitude towards jedi Karen Traviss posted: I see Vader as a tragic character who's been betrayed by everyone, and I can't help thinking of the Jedi as self-serving unelected elitist spoon-benders making whoopee on Republic taxpayers' credits. It's an iconoclastic journo world-view. Believe me, Order 66 was long overdue. I have a couple of Jedi that I don't want to shoot on sight, but they're my own creations, so I could make them a little humbler and more aware of the consequences they create for others. Order 66 was long overdue.... Are you kidding me, it was genocide. as has been posted on here before please go to http://boards.theforce.net/literature/b10003/28128642/p5 Scroll down to you see a big post from YodaKenobi he goes through one of her books and points out how the entire time boba fett rails on the jedi and how they are effectively useless. Jaina gets help on working a comm link and paises Fett on creating a new technology. Its as though she never fought in the Yuuzong Vong war, created moves and technology to defeat them. In fact she is even shown to be inferior to ALL mandalorian pilots when she is in fact one of the best fighter pilots in the galaxy
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