Hey J, I am sorry to say that we went from 170+ members to only a handful with most of them leaving as soon as time gives out. So at this time we dont have any plans on much. We are all trying out different games and looking for something we can call home. http://www.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=413910&TabID=3513617 you can go here and apply so you can keep up with what guild does in future. Sorry again, I wish I had better news.

Just give me notice when you plan on implementing this, so I can move on to another game.

Will you please be different and remove the difference between pvp and pve gear, all we need is gear period. I like to do both, but like many people, I dont have the time to spend on both. I would like to go from raiding to pvp and be competitive due to skill, strategy, and some good old team work. That would be better then getting beat down by gear. Pvp gear serves no purpose, except to give an advantage, if you have to win by an unfair advantage....well you get my point.

Whats worse then that, is how long it will take and how much you have to endure to get some where close to the gear the original 50's of the game have. Some are valor rank 70 now, do you have any idea how much you have to pvp to reach that? Basically, if you did not start pvping on Dec.13th and pretty much 23/7 (giving one hour a day for showers and food) pvp then you have no chance of participating effectively.

Yes, why give an "artificial" advantage which in turns just makes people not want to play. I love to pvp as well as other aspects of the game but the only way I will pvp in TOR atm is an alt pre 50. Which is silly for a person paying to play to be limited like that. For a change, just make gear.....Let PVP be about skill, strategy, team work and most importantly, FUN. Also, why in the world do you have to always reform grp and are not even able to make a full guild grp. Your pvp part of the game will suffer if you don't change these things, which will mean the game as a whole will suffer. Which of course means, the money will suffer. I am already seeing people in the guild leave the game, we quickly went to 150 members but are sliding back closer to 100. Not to be too technical about it but that is almost 1/3, or 30%, pretty nasty falling away.

I just dont see the point in letting gear make me a better player. If gear is the reason I win then....well I guess I pretty much suck. I mean really I can see two equally skilled players that the gear should make the difference but one or two shotting folks, there really isnt time to determine that. But even then why do raiders get the bum end of the stick just because a portion of their gaming time is spent in a raid versus warzone?

Lol, I just posted on another thread... Why must there be pvp gear and pve gear? Pvp gear's only purpose is to give a person an advantage over some one who does not have it. So, gear makes the player...Thought we were gonna be different here Bioware. If you wanna know what pvp is suppose to be then pvp naked. That way pvp is actually a battle of skill and strategy, not who has the most gear.... I will never understand why I can not go straight from killing a boss in a raid to having a bit of fun in a War zone and expect to be competitive. So your pvp team with "pvp" gear beats mine because we don't have "pvp" gear and that makes you feel like a winner. Silly. You could actually be different here Bioware and have different avenues to get same gear and make everything balanced. This would be an original idea and I bet you it would make a lot of us people who enjoy both but cant put that much time in both, very happy.

I would say that being to late may not be the issue as much as not being enough. I am looking at pvp atm and thought Bioware was going to be different. However, imo it is a lot worse, once again we have pvp gear, that makes all the difference. Why do you even need pvp gear? Just to make less skillful players powerful? everyone pvp naked and see what pvp is suppose to be...a battle of skill and stratergy not gear.

Is there work on more of the creature comforts ingame that some of us are use too? (raid calendar, being able to invite from guild roster, being able to shift click a persons name and see info like level, guild, a better network for selling, loot drop info system, guild bank and of course ALOT LESS LAG.) This stuff is not new to industry, coming up with something new is hard but repeating shouldnt be that hard.

Sorry we havent checked in sooner, but we were all getting settled in and we have several new folks come on board. I am very pleased with the guild's progress and the membership we have. Check out our website, for some of the progress. As of this posting I do not have all the pictures up. I hope everyone is enjoying their time in TOR. We are on the Juyo server which for the most part seems to be a good place to call home. PVE, est. time server. http://knightsofthecross.jediportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=413910&TabID=3513617

I would comment but really with what you said....I see no point.

HA, you have done more whinning then I have even in this post. I see a problem and have an opinion and I share it. I have that right. You dont see a problem and enjoy others doing your job. Leave it at that, but no. You keep going because as others have pointed out you are wrong. Sorry, that everyone doesnt agree with you. My orginal thoughts are its broken, you said it wasnt. Now you retract your comments and try to make it sound like you know it is. Just go away, I am interested in getting it fixed so I and all the other JK long time hopefuls can move on with the class they have waited so long to play. Oh btw I have now main tanked the guild through most content, We had SOA(the infernal one) down on the floor with 20% left but ran out of time before we had a successful attempt. My stand still stays the same its broke.

I like this guy

This guy is no authority on tanking believe me. Taunt doesnt build threat it causes mobs to attack you for the time its effect is up. JK have one ability that generates threat Hilt Strike, and it has a minute cool down, all other threat comes from our form. At a rate of 50%, our form reduces damage and generates threat at that rate. A troopers ion cell, their tanking form, generates threat, reduces damage and INCREASES DAMAGE. Now that seems a bit one sided especially since two of the three picks in the first tier of the defense skill tree also increase DAMAGE. I have advised all those that I know to not run a JK at least till its fixed, take that for what it is worth. If you enjoy tanking this isnt the class for you, if you want others to do your job for you and have all kinds of reasons why you dont fail as a tank, when you arent even doing the job, then play a JK. Oh I forgot this tid bit, two other JK guardians in my guild also 50's but they are dps, have change their mains to something else, one a trooper tank, the other consular shadow. We went to 50 in hopes of something good at the end, and we got it....other classes. However, my son has a 50 sent jedi and it rocks.

lol if you knew who and what kinda tank you were talking too, you would go hide, I dont need advice I can tank or should i say out tank you or anyone else you wanna put me up against, that isnt the issue. the issue is it isnt fun for hardcore tanks it is desinged for fail fluff tanks. the end result of this is, you cant hold aggro so hit taunt...fail mechanic, fail mechanic, fail mechanic and if you like it, well we know where that puts you in the rank of tanks, fail.

guess i have to post this again and add, if you like being a useless taunt instead of a effective tank, then by all means continue to post your silly squables here. However, if you see the same problems I do then help me let the DEVS know what you see. That is why I bother to post because they need to know our views on the problems. A jedi knight should not be the lowest class or spec for anything in STAR WARS. Trust me I do not find tanking likes this dificult, I have never played a more fluff tank. Its boring and useless.

everyone just proves my point over and over, JK tanking is broken. Does that mean you cant tank as a JK, no. I am a level 50 JK tank and have tanked everything short of raids. What it means is, it is not fun, and for those who dont seem to understand a few things. It isnt hard to stop dpsing...just dont hit a button. What is hard is trying to max your dps so the stuff dies in a timely manner. Not doing something isnt hard, that is why JK's are broke, because Bioware did "not" fix them and feels its easier to "not" do anything about it. Tanking 101- you as a tank are suppose to pull, hold, control the action and take the damage, that is your job. If you can not do this because of mechanics then the mechanics are broken. So again, does that mean it cant be done. No it doesnt. I have done it, but I cant wait to log off that toon after tanking for guild and get on an alt. Why? Because JK are broke, boring and lame. Which doesnt set well with me, being the fan I am of Star Wars.

are you a tank or dps because that is two very different things, as a "tank" doing anything is boring. takes forever to do a few dailies, can hold aggro so fast mass pullling is out of the question, just a very lame boring class, as a tank. I have gone dps and jedi knight as dps is ok, still the weekest of the classes unless you go sent. which I find very heart-breaking, I am sure most of Bio-ware staff probably wasnt even alive when Star Wars came out but let me assure you the whole story in the movies is based on Jedi, so to make the knights so weak, well I am surprised.

I am a level 50 guardian tank, tanking on a jedi is silly imo and i am leveling alts to play instead. At this time I am guilds only upper level tank so I stay one for them, however I have suffered through 50 boring levels, just to have a toon that I cant stomach to go questing on or enjoy tanking on. The mechanic in TOR is not a true tanking mechanic, its a taunt mechanic. Its designed to let pittiful players take on a roll where everyone else can do his job. I have tanked everything up to raids at this point. We have gotten through everything fine, but I have had no fun doing them. I have to say I cant wait to get another toon up, doesnt matter which. I have played trooper, consular and had a blast with both of them. They have ruined the JK guardian and unless boredom is your thing dont go that way.

Well I have been getting reports of very poor customer service from some members of my guild. Answer's like, if it isnt working re-roll you toon (a level 50). There have been other situations that members have stated the response was less then satisfactory. I dont know if EA is aware of the customer service we are recieving or not. I am sure that as large of a company as they are, they realize that customers are what pay the bills. Short answers, put offs, generic responses, and laying the blame back on the paying customers will not get any company very far. The bad reviews will likely start flying soon if the players arent kept in the loop. I know I can over look a lot of things if I know why, when and maybe how.

And you are a jedi tank at level 46? and if your idea of tanking is holding on mob that to me means you couldnt handle real tanking so yeah the system is broken. You guys seem to think because you fail at the job that its everyone elses fault which prooves the point I made to start with. That tells me you cant learn a dps class well enough to be effective, which would make healing out of the question so you choose tank. The spec were its everyone else's fault. Lame. I tank because I like and can do the job. I tank, run a raid, keep my folks safe, and have a ball doing it. At least till now. Sure dps will learn when to pull and when not too, but you obvisouly never really tanked anything difficult. If all you can do is guess at what you think in a theory, then dont bother me with it. I am there doing it and it is broke. Funny thing is no one has said "what do you think would fix it?" This will be my last post on the matter, I can make up my own mind what to do from here I posted because the devs. need to know the problems experienced and long paying customers see. If that isnt an issue for you, good day, I dont need your input.

interesting, so what you are saying is tanking in tor=no fun, dps in tor=no fun, how about healing with this free for all, I cant do my job mentality I suppose it would be the most fun. You are correct, wow is the game I have the most experience in, though not the only one. Wow has been the top MMO for 7 years for a reason. Partly because specs were defined, if wow made a mistake at bc then I doubt the subscriptions would have almost doubled in a short period of time. You may enjoy standing there waiting on a cooldown to come back so you can tank again but I do not. You may fail at tanking so bad that its a relief to have others do it for you, I do not. You may think even though you have not played the class to the point I have you know better then. All that being said means nothing, either tanks are tanks or you dont need them. But no worries I went dps, as many have. Look in general chat on your server, search for a tank to run Red reaper. Good luck. Ill either dps and wait till they fix this or Ill choose another class. Yes if wow was Star Wars based and wasnt going the way of the panda, I would rather play those tanking mechanics with a bit of this thrown in. Try as you might you cant defend a broken system, if it wasnt broke then wow would have stayed that way.

By the way if you are not a Jedi Knight tank and atleast level 46 and have cleared everything up to your level...then you have nothing to say, simply because you have no bases to say it. Furthermore, its not about just pvp or leveling or flashpoints. I am a raider I tank things that one shot other members of the grp. Again, my job.

What I am saying is I am a skilled tank and that the mechanic here is for those who are not and need everyone to do their job for them, and if it fails then they can blame others. Why is a tank having the highest threat a new idea to you guys? That is our job...otherwise why have a tanking class, spec or gear. I dont mind some cc and dont mind dps picking off trash but to constantly having to taunt just to hold is silly, that makes me less able to pay attention to all aspects of the event and keep grp safe. Once again, news flash....a tanks job is to take the damage and protect the grp, period.

So i see your point, no need to have defined classes lets all just go free for all, and do a tank spec if you just want to take forever to kill something. But the benefit is, you get to call yourself a tank...lol. There are defined names to trees for a reason if that reason doesnt exist, it isnt the players fault. So, I guess they should be called taunt instead of tank. What a wonderful idea, make a tree unrewarding and not needed. I guess its good for forums so people can fuss about I like earning my way or I like everyone doing my job for me. But hey, free for all sounds fun.