At this point it is obvious Bioware is doing no internal testing and has absolutely no clue on how to fix things. Releasing the 1.1 patch to "fix" ilum that only breaks it beyond belief? Hilarious Releasing an emergency patch the next day to "fix" what they double broke? Priceless Listen up guys, you're in luck, luckily i listened to my parents and went to college and get a degree, unfortunately it wasn't even for Computer Science, but lucky for you I can still help you tykes out since it's clear you dropped out of ITT Tech. Population cap based on faction instead of zone will make it equal Phew, my mom said my hard work would pay off one day Now get at it boys

I like how OP keeps complaining about other people refrencing WoW, yet noone in this thread even mentioned WoW except for him

The only thing "Unfair on many levels" Would be the fact that you would be a level 49 Twink curb stomping all the other lowbies

so.. whats your favorite food, troll?

This is so far beyond an unacceptable solution

Seriously getting tired of countless bugs in HM's. This is the second time this week I have been screwed out of gear on end bosses. Tonight it was doing False Emperor HM for the first time with me being the tank, we get all the way through without much trouble, get him down to 15%, get in position by the pillars only to have him leap to someone else which put him out of position and of course then he sends me flying into the pit. A few seconds later he drops his shield and the others are able to knock him down and finish the instance Meanwhile of course thanks to genius Bioware programming I cannot re-enter the instance to loot the last chest or even get reward for the HM quest. Screw this. The same thing happened a few days ago after wiping on the final boss of Taral V right as we killed him, we got to all way there and watch the purple beam shoot up out of his body with the only option being to release and not be able to re-enter and loot the corpse I have no idea how something like this was overlooked but it needs to be fixed yesterday.

This is cute, are your 500 credit repair bills breaking you? The death penalties in this game is an absolute joke, if you're not trolling this is the biggest whine i've seen yet. Also i have -never- gotten a BSOD or CTD in this game, i'm not saying certain pc setups wont have conflicting issues with the game but this is an isolated issue with YOU and a very small percentage of others.

So ive ran HM Essless twice now as a properly geared shadow tank (all pvp gear thats been modded to replace accuracy with shield chance+ shield absorb) with some buddies who are also almost equally geared as me and for the life of us we seem to get stuck on Ironfist The setup is me Shadow Tank, Commando healer, Scoundrel dps and the other person has either been a dps commando or Hybrid sage. We interrupt all of his aimed shots to eliminate that factor and when adds come i Aoe taunt them while they get dpsed down quickly and during rockets everyone huddles close so we can just aoe heal through the hits Usually no one will die during the fight but it seems like we get him down to 10-20% and he must be hitting his enrage time because i will suddenly drop like a rock with the rest of the team to of course follow. A couple times on our last run he would occasionally seem to turn and Shoyruken the scoundrel and basically one shot him which both seems odd that he does that much damage in one hit as well as the possibility of me losing aggro is impossible Is there something were doing wrong here? Is it really that were just not doing enough damage and hes enraging? Any advice is welcome

This is why this is a MMORPG, notice the Role playing tag. When you play an rpg (FF1) for example, do you create a party with 4 white mages and then ***** because the game didnt let you also be a healer and a tank? No, you pick one role and you commit yourself to being the best at that role you can be. Now I understand that being a MMO that requires diversity and if you cant find it thats a bummer. As someone who played FFXI and maxed two jobs I know probably better then 80% of the people on this forum what its like to sit in Juno and spam for multiple hours for a group But thats why its important to get a solid group (read guild) of common and diverse players or a static group Lastly, the majority of the game still is not level 50, there are much more 50's out there yes; However, if this were 2 weeks ago everyonse response would have been "HURR DURR YOU RUSHED TO 50 DEAL WITH IT" well now its your turn to "deal with it" while more 50's show up, eventually everyone will be 50 and everyone will be doing HM's all day long

Of course not, just the fact that you're going to want absolutely everything that drops in an instance however

Hell, while were at it lets just combine all the classes into one so everyone can heal, dps and tank at the same time. This game is already casual enough as it is with the fact that they tried to make every class versatile enough as it is and that healers can do more then just heal and tanks can also dps when needed. So no, screw that. Not to mention most of the gear you're aiming for is going to be towards either tanking/healing or dpsing, even if you had your "dual spec" your gear would likely be crap for your secondary role.

So you complain about the logical reasoning behind having it like a stance, and then contradict yourself 100% by agreeing it should be like that? wow.

For the exact reason the OP and others have said? It's very annoying and pointless to constantly turn on every time you die in warzones. Why does it need to be turned OFF? Would you like all your stances to turn off upon death?

So... you know that's not a legendary item right...?

Wow some of theese replies are just wow. Here's the deal, This ability needs to always be on, before I opened this thread I knew id hear something about RP'ers, the datacron one is a stretch for me as theres the walk button, the guy that leaves it off I wont comment on as it would lead to a personal attack on his intelligence. So how do we make everyone happy? Make it toggled on by default after death with the option to turn it off when you want Edit: To be even more precise, it just needs to be like stances that stay on or off through deaths. /thread

Here's the problem To start however, the story never changed, my only mistake was describing a static number of 2 seconds instead of just referring to the OP's initial knockdown/cc/**** combo. In this game as it stands PVP is all about battlegrounds as Ilum is defunct. In these battlegrounds it is all about killing people as fast as possible and nothing more. In aldaraan: You need to burst down so people dont reinforce the point In Voidstar: You need to burst down and kill everyone/cc before the wall breaks to reinforce Huttball is a mix, killing is and isnt usefull but overall bursting probably still is a more important thing here. As everyone else has argued that this "is not a 1v1" game, which is true is why OP's are OP. If I could get into a prolonged fight in most situations that would be great. As it is if the Operative can open up on a tank and drop them below 50% health, it doesnt take much help from anyone else to destroy them. Should a tank be invincible? No, are rogue classes usually meant to kill Tanks in 90% of MMo's? No, they are meant to kill other squishies which leads to the next problem of the fact that they are doing this much damage to tanks and completly destroying other squishies. We barely have a fighting chance, they have even less, if thats fair I cant comment as I am not currently playing a squishy Tl;dr -- I do not believe that in a perfect world everyone should be able to kill everyone, some MMo's do that however the other situation is a rock paper scissors triangle which TOR has more of, the problem is that Operatives are both Rock and paper.

I wasnt aware that it took skill to absorb damage? Is there a certain button combination I can hit while laying face down that makes me take less damage when I get caught by a stealther?

I didn't come here to be a "source of information" for you, I'm not wikipedia, nor did I obviously provide a video. I came to post my experience as a tank wearing 7 pieces of champion gear. Others have posted similiar stories, others have said that never happens. Both of these statements are possible because they have either never fought a well geared operative or others have only faced well geared operatives. I do not die 100% to an OP, but as the game has only been out for a few weeks now and I hit 50 8 days ago and since then have geared up fairly decently, there should be no class that destroy a tank the way they do me unless they were in a full set of battlemaster gear, even then thats stretching it. I win some I lose some, overall they still do too much burst damage to people who are suppose to resist burst.

Yeah, you got me there champ, i am "lying" This has never happened to me, I just came to make this post because I have a personal vendetta against them from early childhood. You're such a slueth Edit because i quoted the wrong person

If I have my CC breaker it becomes slightly more even, yes, unfortunatly thats not always up in which point you're screwed. Regardless of this, that doesnt change the fact of the matter of how much damage they can dish out to a tank Also, theres that word "Liar" again. Do people honestly think everyone just comes to these forums to "lie" about make believe scenarios? At least call me a troll if anything which would still be inaccurate, but this is getting silly

It's ok, I already reported his post for that and word filter evasion. Kid's these days don't know how to have a civil discussion

Lol, this is classic, is "Liar" tor's favorite word or something? It's seriously like i'm in a middle school grade room. There is a difference between lying and mis-evaluating a stun length, I do not think I need to explain this further. I am speaking from my constant experience in battlegrounds. No, I have not frapsed any OP ****** me, but apparentley I should for fear of being called a "Liar" This game is perfect and completly balanced 100% even though its just released, right guys? No MMO ever goes through constant tweaks/fixes/nerfs/buffs for classes, right? Or am I a liar in stating this too Where this is smoke, theres fire, there is a very valid reason Operatives are being called out

2 seconds 4 seconds, however long i'm laying flat on my face from their knockdown ability, I'm not the one doing it nor am i keeping a stopwatch. Stop arguing semantics when you know full well what i'm referring to If my CC breaker is not up im assuming in reality its either between 6-8 seconds im being manhandled. and Please, show me a shadow that can do that kind of damage in or out of stealth

Sorry for late response, was in some warzones. So first of all im confused where I ever said an Operative does 7k damage in one hit? Never, thats when. Here's the scenario: Me, happily defending a point, or attacking whatever. Next thing i Know im laying flat on my back, suddenly above my head i see: 3k crit, 3k crit 1800 damage, 3k crit I stand up, pop my resiliance and 50% damage reduction which saves me for the 4 seconds theyre on, by the time they are worn off i'll be dead in the next couple seconds. I'm talking 1v1 here. I AM A TANK -not- a squishy sorcerer or dpser, I have high Expertise and shield chance and absorption. Popping some stim to counter a class? Lol thats the biggest denial statement i've ever heard. This is broken and you are naive to think otherwise

Yes another operatives thread i'm sure. I have never seen a class in an mmo need a nerf so, so hard. The fact that an operative can destroy me, A fully specced shadow tank in near full champion PVP gear is beyond wrong. I'm fully ok with an operative being able to do that kind of damage to say a sorcerer or another light armored squishy, but the fact that as soon as a tank goes face down and comes back up with under 40% health (I'm sitting at 18.5k atm) in under 2 seconds is broken