I am well am curious about this, and how about the 77 end / power clicky relic, how would you weigh this in a tanks build? or even the end/power shield/absorb clicky given that def overall isnt that great for us anyways?

Just one for the PVP fans out there, I dont know if it has been posted somewhere else, aside from the speculation of the Jedi Shadows Handbook, But which is better for the 31/0/10 build Stalker with a focus/Shield or Survivor with focus/shield? again if you would happen to have a say either for or against, possible reason for going 3/5 stalker and 2/5 survivor for the bonus on the equipement, do you feel that the 4/5 stalker bonus out weighs this, or do you think 4/5 5% dmg bonus from Survivor more then makes up for it ? Thanks for the input!

might as well not pvp thats all you see in pvp these days anyways! great class balance job bioware, buggy as **** classes and 2 ops classes that basically everyone has to roll to to be able to be competitive.

Yeah the shadow is losing dps from being in a tank stance, instead of another for dps........ what ever your smoking pass it this way!

Yeah, it just kills me that with all the known class bugs they issues they are focusing on are so that the minority wont be able to take advantage of their poorly designed system for raiding and not that the majority of players who are simply playing and hoping someday they will be fixed arent addressed.

So i`m not starting this off as a Nerf blah blah blah thread i`m starting this as a rant thread So looking at the patch issues that they are resolving on Tuesday. And low and behold its problems with the LATEST content that they release, Multiple times looting a single chest etc. But i didnt see anything, Nothing at all about any of the Exsisting Documented Problems in game. 1. Jedi Shadow / Sith Assassin Passive Skill DOESNT WORK! there have been numerous threads and tests about this with 0 acknowledgemnt about the problem. The tooltip states an increase to endurance and an increase to he base dmg of shock and project. currently doesnt do anything it hits for the same exact value on classes that dont have this skill no gear or talents. 2. Jedi Shadow`s Particle Acceleration Doesnt work as the tool tip states it should, WHILE the sith assassin one does. I mean come on how did you manage to screw this up. the code should be virtually identical in function?????????????? 3. If Republic Cap a Turret and Empire Cap a Turret in Alderaan WZ the Empire turret will fire 2x before the Republic one fires once. Again really how did you manage to screw this up. 4. Class Balance issues do exsist and while i`m not again saying to nerf Sorcs maybe change something about the dynamic they play with as EVERY and i mean EVERY WZ has a min of about 5 Sorcs. I mean come on this should tell you something are you even paying attention to the game your "supporting" 5. And this last item is just a personal on. I have posted numerous Tickets about it as well as posted in the Customer Service Forums. I have yet to get a response. Again Obviously your focus isnt customer service, i wonder if the paypal system were to have a problem how fast you would get it fixed. Tarsis FIRST World after getting your ship as a consular, get to the planet finish it. Holocomm bugs, resolution reset questline, and redo. So i did and low and behold the quest giver that starts AND ends the quest has the same dialog screen from me having finished it. 6. Also a Jedi Shadow Problem, Project with cast animation does not do dmg until the object hits the target while the cast animation for shock is instant, so there are literally hundreds of project youtube videos of objects just rotating around as people who have cast something used force to do it and basically done nothing! 7. Harness Shadows is Broken Doesnt work as tool tip states. Again looking at your "Patch" notes i see nothing just more to prevent the minority of the population that is raiding your endgame material from taking advantage of what has to be one of the worst coding jobs i have seen in forever. This is only for 1 Class, i am sure if you were to take time and higher some Forum admins that could actually have a Consistent Forum communication to let everyone know whats going on you would find other classes with similar coding problems.

So i`m not starting this off as a Nerf blah blah blah thread i`m starting this as a rant thread So looking at the patch issues that they are resolving on Tuesday. And low and behold its problems with the LATEST content that they release, Multiple times looting a single chest etc. But i didnt see anything, Nothing at all about any of the Exsisting Documented Problems in game. 1. Jedi Shadow / Sith Assassin Passive Skill DOESNT WORK! there have been numerous threads and tests about this with 0 acknowledgemnt about the problem. The tooltip states an increase to endurance and an increase to he base dmg of shock and project. currently doesnt do anything it hits for the same exact value on classes that dont have this skill no gear or talents. 2. Jedi Shadow`s Particle Acceleration Doesnt work as the tool tip states it should, WHILE the sith assassin one does. I mean come on how did you manage to screw this up. the code should be virtually identical in function?????????????? 3. If Republic Cap a Turret and Empire Cap a Turret in Alderaan WZ the Empire turret will fire 2x before the Republic one fires once. Again really how did you manage to screw this up. 4. Class Balance issues do exsist and while i`m not again saying to nerf Sorcs maybe change something about the dynamic they play with as EVERY and i mean EVERY WZ has a min of about 5 Sorcs. I mean come on this should tell you something are you even paying attention to the game your "supporting" 5. And this last item is just a personal on. I have posted numerous Tickets about it as well as posted in the Customer Service Forums. I have yet to get a response. Again Obviously your focus isnt customer service, i wonder if the paypal system were to have a problem how fast you would get it fixed. Tarsis FIRST World after getting your ship as a consular, get to the planet finish it. Holocomm bugs, resolution reset questline, and redo. So i did and low and behold the quest giver that starts AND ends the quest has the same dialog screen from me having finished it. 6. Also a Jedi Shadow Problem, Project with cast animation does not do dmg until the object hits the target while the cast animation for shock is instant, so there are literally hundreds of project youtube videos of objects just rotating around as people who have cast something used force to do it and basically done nothing! 7. Harness Shadows is Broken Doesnt work as tool tip states. Again looking at your "Patch" notes i see nothing just more to prevent the minority of the population that is raiding your endgame material from taking advantage of what has to be one of the worst coding jobs i have seen in forever. This is only for 1 Class, i am sure if you were to take time and higher some Forum admins that could actually have a Consistent Forum communication to let everyone know whats going on you would find other classes with similar coding problems. /rant

Hi, Aside from our Passive not working currently. Does your energize skill work when you pop Recklessness do you actually get the 50% crit dmg ? As a shadow neither Projects passive nor, the mirror skill work even when you are in the right "stance" and have the right set of conditions met.

Speaking from a Shadow point of view, our passive to project doesnt work either I was curious does energize work because the equivelent for shadow does not.

I also started a Petition for the in the Classes general forum. I for one am a HUGE!!! fan of just using like a force jab style animation i dont need to see a spinning rock hanging in the air because it didnt do damage.

If you want a stealthy tank, that has phenomonal potential go Assassin.

First off for anyone not aware of this issue, here is an Excellent read. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=29235 So /Sign if you want to see the project changes to a force jab idea. I for one am a huge fan of this!

Yeah, i play a Jedi shadow and have never gotten close to 16 medals, 9 yes, 16 no.

I agree with the OP i`m getting sick of all the people be moaning this game because they are X class and dont win so the game state of pvp is crap, etc. It`s fine, I main a shadow on Darth Sion and it`s a 50/50 who wins empire or republic.

why wait just unsub so we dont have to hear your qq about it in a month