Except that is wrong. In the OT, Leia lived with her real mother when she was very young. There is a WHOLE SCENE about it in RotJ. So the whole 'Padme dying of a broken heart right after giving birth' thing already breaks continuity.

I swear, did some of you people complain about South Park not actually being representative of WoW game mechanics on its WoW episode. This wasn't a freakin documentary, it was an episode of a sitcom.

I didn't read through every page, so someone may have already made this point, but I'll repeat it if so since the last few pages seem to be the same arguments from the first few pages: 1v1, in terms of pure offensive combat power, a dark sider will generally be more "powerful" than a light sider. This is because offensive combat power is by its very nature AGGRESIVE and benefits from tapping into the dark side. Being highly aggressive is anathema to a Jedi, as it is a path to the dark side. The Jedi always end up winning because the Sith always stab themselves in the back. More generally an enlightened society where everyone looks out for the best interests of not just themselves, but the whole, is stronger than a society where everyone is just in it for their own power. A particular individual in that second society might be more powerful than anyone in the first, but as a whole the first is stronger than the second. Darth Bane recognized this, that is one of the reasons he instituted the Rule of Two. He saw that in the war between Sith and Jedi, the Jedi would always win because they would always be stronger as a group than any group of Sith. The Sith came to power again not through a grand clash of civilizations such as we see in TOR, but by becoming a sort of poison that silently and invisibly eats the Republic from the inside out. Although most people, including Lucas, don't see it this way, even the fall of Palpatine is a manifestation of this, the Sith Lord Vader turning on his master to save his son. I've never really seen this as some sort of redemptive act, despite what Lucas says. It is in many ways a selfish act, any Jedi who was not Vaders son, if put in Luke's position would not have caused Vader to turn on the Emperor. He didn't return to the Light in my view so much as choose his family over his master. The Mafia isn't any less evil just because they value family. Yeah yeah yeah, he got a Light Side Force Ghost at the end so I'm wrong, whatever, I find this part of the plot fairly absurd.

Meh Pad for message length check....

It doesn't matter how the Trade Federation came into existence. It DOES matter why the hell they are doing what they are doing in the movies.

Why does the galaxy the movies take place in exist? Sure we can play this game if you want, but you are just being difficult because you have no real response. It doesn't really matter to the plot of the OT how or why the Empire came into existence, just as it isn't important to the plot why that particular galaxy came into existence. The motivations of the Trade Federation IS important to the coherence of TPM's plot, and the lack of exposition on those motivations are one of the many reasons why TPM's plot lacks coherence.

And you have, right there, summarized why the prequels sucks. Why did the rebellion exist: Evil totalitarian empire we see in the movies Why did Trade Federation exist: Seniors Thesis pulling from various sources outside the movies.

Please enlighten us. eta: There are certainly stupid things in the OT, but overall each movie was well done. My personal pet peeve in Ep IV is the SD gunner scene, "Hold your fire! There are no life signs." It is stupid as hell, and serves no purpose. We don't need to see why the escape pod wasn't shot down, especially when the reason why is stupid.

Why the hell would you willingly pay money to see TPM again. You did see it the first time right? You know how horrible it is going to be? You know the version in the theatres on Friday isn't the Rifftrax version right?

The whole '40-man gatekeeper' thing is true. However what everyone seems to be missing is that since removing that game makes everything easier...... You have to make the actual mechanics MUCH harder (usually not an option, fewer people also leaves less room for complex mechanics) OR produce new content MUCH FASTER. This is where TOR has failed right now. They have produced an endgame much easier than even the current WoW endgame, but are not producing new content fast enough to hold peoples interest. If there were some alternative content for people doing Ops this might not be a problem, but Bioware decided not to innovate at all in their endgame, it is an exact carbon copy of WoW circa 2007 style endgame.

There were several threads about this on the PTS Forums. The reason you don't see a lot of activity there is that HARDLY ANYONE PLAYS ON THE PTS. You need to add character transfers ASAP to fix that. No one wants to level up an alt on a server with no one on it. Those of us who HAVE done so, and post feedback, just get ignored. The only things that get attention are things that are controversial because of the patch notes, not because of what people have experienced on the PTS.

This isn't a civil war, it is a clash of separate civilizations. They haven't been in direct contact for over 1000 years.

HAHA! Well guess what you are TOTALLY WRONG!!!!! There are only 4, COUNT EM FOUR cargo bay access points on the Republic Fleet, but the Imperial Fleet has 8, THAT IS RIGHT EIGHT YOU DAMN HATER!!!!! THE FLEETS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!!!!!!! Go Back to WoW!

Who the hell buys credits? I really don't see how credit farmers can survive in this game. Players get SOOOO many credits, and have NOTHING to spend them on at 50. I've gotten almost no spam since the game started, and I think I know why. It isn't because Bioware is awesome at shutting them down, it is because most have discovered they cannot make a profit selling credits in this game.

Umm, do more damage faster?