lol. true story.

fixed.....

The class is way too complicated to rely on Clicking and do well with it. The best option is and in no sense am i trying to be elitist, but to reroll, already the class is being claimed as being the hardest to play, and its due to the fact that their are too many buttons that need pressing, as a clicker i do not think you will be able to surpass that learning curve, especially since you have been use to clicking for so long. It will be a difficult and frustrating journey for you to attempt to learn keybinding with this class, my recommendation is to choose a class that at endgame level 50 does not require more than 4 buttons to press to achieve optimal results. Its up to you to decide, but i believe this choice will be far more enjoyable for you in the long run. cheers.

Marauder, the new E-Peen Class. I think its very easy to filter out the stupid retard QQ from legitimate claims of poor mechanics and bugged spells. But i do think "most", and i use this term relatively, people think the class sucks because generally speaking they are comparing it to the other classes in swtor. Most people who come on the forums and say the class is fine and just requires a steep learning curve are trolls. The class isn't complicated, and its not hard to pick up relatively fast, the only issue is the amount of buttons you have to press, ( 5-8 vs 3 or 4). I think for the most part the people that come on here are just trying to promote their own ego's, saying that everyone who is having trouble just sucks at the game, and that they themselves are better because they dont experience the same issues as the other individuals. On the other hand some people come on here and complain about the class literally have no idea what theyre talking about because, well to be honest, they are noobs. I went from seeing all the flaws in the class (mostly from pvp) to being neutral, especially when im reading this forum. I havent read any useful information without some ****** spouting utter bull*****. Most of them going "Marauders are OP in op's because theyre damage is really high" No statistics equals **** imo, "Marauders **** in PVP" Inc ss of rage marauders in full bm gear in a losing match but having 500k damage. I mean there are some serious flaws with the class, but for some reason people refuse to see them, they dont want to see bugs fixed or issues addressed, LIke for instance, Bloated talents in the annihilation tree, the carnage tree being completely underwhelming and at the same time more bloated talents. The global cd is around 1 second, if im not mistaken, yet the time to hit abilities to keep a general rotation going (Stacks on annihilate, Gore) require 100% uptime on the boss, which for Almost All the boss's in the game currently are impossible, which end up in a huge loss of DPS. This does not even come closs to translating well in PvP. While Ive seen personally annihilation and rage do really well, carnage is lack luster, and can be countered very easily. blargh, i havent seen a dev response on these forums since they nerfed annihilation because it was "bugged" apparently. From all the bugs to all the terrible balance decisions they keep making, btw operatives are useless now, i think bioware seriously needs to hire more people or get off twitter and start addressing serious issues. inb4 hate. Edit: Global cd is 1.5 seconds, for easymodex because he enjoys trolling so much.

i didnt say you were dumb. Just that you're biased. It was a good read though. I went through most of the same experience you were having, until around mid 40's where i had to replace my monitor because i punched a hole through it.

qft Very nice suggestions btw.

Welcome to the marauder forums, enjoy your stay im sure youve seen this already but as a disclaimer please be prepared for *class is fine you just suck* response Posts of random video's in PvP where they own people who backpeddle and generally suck at the game. (response to current video being thrown around as mock proof) oh and dont forget the people who dont even play the class but know how to use wiki.

biased opinion is biased.

So ive cleared everything, and i dont see where a boss's hitbox has been an issue for me...

Im sorry that came off a bit rude. I meant to say is, all of these situations you claim can possibly work, but has a high risk of failure due to short durations and long cd's. Anyway apologies for the rude comments.

Sure in a pure 1 v 1. In a warzone the minute you drop below half health, every dps in a 100 yard radius is gunning for you, sure you can pop your 4 second vanish, then die to the merc dot, or get revealed by his flare.

You can correct my poor grammar all you want, you can even spew your crap about good player vs bad player as if playing a marauder is extremely difficult that only a select niche can do it well, you can even gloat and post screen shots of someone that heal bot you in a warzone and you pulling massive numbers, thats fine. But dont act like you know what you are talking about because you can quote a few key scenario's that usually never happen as you are describing. But please carry on with your delusions, i enjoy reading the terrible logic with your arguments.

Im sorry im all for bringing balance to marauders i see the flaws as others do, But this statement is clear horse crap. I dont agree with your statement at all, ive played several mmo's and in most cases this rule is never true. There are dps classes that span both ranged and melee, and in other mmo's MELEE classes that provide Support. WoW, for instance, enhancement shamans, Holy PALADINS, Even unholy death knights to some extent. All these classes are melee and provide a clear support role.

1. The minority are the people claiming the class is fine and you need to "L2P" they SEEM like the majority because they are VERY vocal on having marauders NOT receive any buffs whatsoever. 2. Being able to "PVE" as a marauder is not, and im using quotes here, "H A R D", but VASTLY more difficult than the other classes that can DPS. If you dont believe me roll any class and spec for dps 3. The feeling that you are having of being attacked, is you losing your argument and becoming defensive. This is the case with most people who feel they are right and someone disagree's with them, using superior logic. Flaw of human nature, not your fault. The point i want to make is that marauders in a PvP setting, are squishy bags of wind that anyone with half a brain and the ability to kite for 15 seconds can completely faceroll. I have a couple 50's now, several mid level alts, and my main thats a marauder. Ive given up on PVP on the marauder, leveled a sorc as lightning spec, and i roll marauders, i find it hilarious that they even bother force charging me, simply knock back pop a few cd's and burn him down before he can even break my shield. (Many many marauders have tried) Now in a PVE Setting, I have no CLUE how much damage im doing vs other classes, I can definitely say right now that without guard, and on an undergeared tank, i will always pull threat first before anyone else, i dont know if this is a good reflection on our damage or not, but without a combat log i dont even want to see a retarded speculation on how OP our PVE DPS is. (Im Annihilation btw near full rakata (damn helm elludes me)) TLDR: Marauders don't suck, but they are definitely not OP.

I can pull that off with my new ungeared 50 sorc. whats your point?