There is a very small window of a couple hours each day where you can go in with a random group and have a 50% win rate. Outside of that window, not only are the queues around 10-15min but one premade will completely dominate. I don't whine about how I get owned every match or claim a class is over powered. I just log off and try again the next day. I know I'm not the only one who does this and this lack of players for pvp will cause more and more people to log out due to no chance of winning at most times of the day. This needs to be fixed as soon as possible. As it stands now, it's nearly impossible to even get a win during most times of the day if you aren't lucky enough to be on that premade side.

In regards to the OP, how did they not cap once? Their team seemed pretty solid with 3 good healers also.

I agree with the OP and have seen this happen several times on my server but unfortunately I don't see what can be done. At least on my server, the winning team will still pass the ball to each other and even to the opposing team just to kill that person instantly. So with the ball being kept in motion that whole time, I'm not sure what other limitations could be placed on them.

So if we claim every class is OP'd does that mean they are actually balanced? Another week or two and we should have gone through why every class is OP'd

I honestly didn't think this would even be a split decision on this topic.. 45 - 50's absolutely need their own bracket and have a huge advantage over others in huttball. Skill is only one part of it. The extra skills and gear is what makes the difference. Watch a 50 marauder or jugg run through the fire while taking almost no damage and tell me its not that big of an issue. The argument "You just need to level faster" is probably the worst you could possibly come up with. Especially in this game above others where if you take your time leveling, you get the full experience from the game. There is no way even group of low level players could stand up to a 50 by themselves. I've seen 50's run an entire game of huttball only to be taken down by a group of mid levels zerging them.

I absolutely love the PVP in this game, especially considering it just released, can only get better from here on out. People leaving over how "horrible" the PVP are the type that won't even be pleased. Will at least stop some of these threads from popping up later. Bye!

My post covered this. He wants more out of PVP when this game heavily favors PVE content over that of PVP. Thats all there is to it. I love to PVP as well but in an MMO like this, from even before it was released, I knew it wasn't going to be a heavily PVP orientated game. A game like this is meant to be played for the PVE experience. While its still fun to PVP in it, you shouldn't expect to find an equal experience in the PVP area of the game as it was never intended to be like that.

I agree. This would also give some of the classes not exactly skilled at killing other people a chance to win some more medals.

I agree with you. I think a lot of these small things are being blown out of porportion such as over powered classes, broken mechanics, over powered skills etc... when the real solution to all of this would just be to add brackets and a choice for a randomized team. People are quickly confusing good players with good communication as over powered classes which shouldn't be the case.

I'm sorry but your reply doesn't make any sense. The person you are quoting has it completely right. PVP is probably the worst way to award players that amount of xp because then you have people leveling up extremely fast while ignoring most of the PVE content that consists of most of the game, and then complaining that the PVP content is lacking when that's all they have been using to level up. Sorry but that's your own fault for abusing the system that much, not the games. ToR is hardly a game to play strictly for the PVP. There are three zones dedicated to PVP with the random encounters throughout the world. You're telling me those three zones justify neglecting every other zone and every other story arc that each individual class has, including the space missions as a good enough reason to say "Its just your opinion that ToR is mostly PVE". I'm sorry but you are completely wrong. ToR has everything to do with PVE and the story arcs that go along with it. This MMO has done the best job out of all the other ones out there to make questing feel nothing like grinding. The exceptional voice acting, unique quests, and character involvement in each quest makes this MMO feel like a mini KotR. The fact you even called it grinding shows how little of the game you actually experienced and that your missing out on a great game by criticizing a part of it that you want to be something bigger but was never intended to be so.

I think more PVP should and will be added later on. The amazing and massive PVE content that Bioware has done a great job on should be enough to hold people over until more PVP content is introduced.

Couldn't agree more with the OP, I love the PVP in this game. I think the people that are dissecting it and making it seem horrible will just never be pleased no matter what changes are made. I do think that the brackets should be introduced and a customizable UI but other then that I love it.

I completely agree with this. People are ignoring the amazing PVE content Bioware has made and are focusing on the few classes that do maybe a little too well in PVP and acting like the game is a complete failure, all within the first week no less.

Sorry but this post is an extreme over-exaggeration. If people are putting pressure on me as a Sorc, depending what class it is, I might be able to hold my ground against them, or be able to run away without being killed. Let alone still put out stupid amounts of damage. Mow through entire teams? If no one is pressuring you, then yes you could put out good amounts of damage but it would hardly be enough to go through an entire team.

1. Why did you make a new thread instead of just replying to one of the other millions on the exact same topic. 2. Those 10 people you know are morons for thinking PVP would be perfectly balanced on a new MMO within a week of its release. 3. See 1 and 2.