I recently came back to the game after a really long hiatus (quit shortly after 1.2). Moved here to do warzones with my younger brother, but am itching to try this game's PvE again as well. Haven't seen a sticky or anything, so I thought I'd throw the question out there! Thanks!

Keeping this bumped. Maybe people will drop the unwarranted hate against sages/sorcs. Maybe the FotMers will gee tee eff oh my favorite class.

Please make this a brand new thread, and report it for sticky. My God the common sense is overwhelming!

http://www.bioware.com/games/knights_old_republic/ You're welcome. =D

Ironically I can claim the same thing about people coming to forums whining how their team lost because the other team was more coordinated.

lol at the guy who thinks there's a difference between PvE and PvP servers. You're flagged in Ilum regardless, and everyone knows that's the only world pvp that happens. Try again.

Tomatos, Tamatos, Potatos, Patatos.

See my above post. It's a l2p issue.

Except I've been in many PuGs that slaughter premades. It's a l2p issue.

I believe this is definitely a l2p issue. If I can PvP with no problems at 15 FPS, you can too.

Premades are fine. It's completely a l2p issue.

Yeah pretty much.

I've always called it Snow and Grass. But yeah, much less confusing for PuGs to use that.

What point? That you're somehow wasting time in a video game? Sir, the moment you log in you are wasting time. I thought that's what video games were for? Again, you act like you're forced to sit in WZ matches. You've already admitted to paying 3 months subscription for a game you weren't even sure you'd like. Now your only argument is that you're somehow forced to leave/AFK in warzones for a character you're not even going to play in a month or so. You're a pretty big contender for the Darwin Award, friend. But somehow I am supposed to believe you are the victim here, and not some over-entitled, spoiled brat. You are obviously the 99%.

I like the part where you claim you're being forced to do anything in a video game. foreveralone.jpg

I'd give it 5 minutes.

Is that why my friend and I were outdamaging/outhealing level 49s when we were 10?

I can feel your anger.

A lot of people PvP for general player versus player battles (myself included). Until they add in an 8v8 TDM, expect to get farmed.

Man, I absolutely loved Starfox.

You're contradicting yourself. Join other people killing random players. Suddenly it's a hard-fought game. YOU are the reason you're being farmed. Fight back. Again, strictly a l2p issue. If it was intended as humor, then it's irrelevant. So, you've failed to address my analogy.

Bump.

Huttball without the ball would just be the MMO version of American Gladiators.

More ad hominem. If you don't have something productive to add, don't say anything. This just tells me you're yet another plankton in a sea of whine. Newsflash: MMO PvP is a mindless fragfest. It always has been. In every single MMO I've played, objectives have always been secondary unless it's ladder play. You're upset that you're losing, so instead of making the best of a situation you want the easy way out. I'm sorry, but I guarantee even if a surrender option were available, you'd rarely get enough votes to pass a surrender. So you're willing to lessen your chances of survival because you're unable to compromise. I'm beginning to see why this is a pointless discussion.

Oh boy, ad hominem. No, it's your fault for not working as a team. If you're a survivor on an island with 7 other strangers, and you die because you don't work together, is it luck's fault? If a loss is inevitable, then chill out, have fun shooting at people. This quote proves it IS about the loss for you. How can you find running a ball from one end to the other any less boring than general PvP? Make the 10 minutes worthwhile. Adapt and help others farm medals.