I just unsubbed moments ago. I was one of those people who signed up for this game's forum days after it was created. To the point of the thread, I cancelled because as a customer who is continuing to pay for a product, I have expectations. I understand the do's and don'ts of communications. But, as a paying customer, I expect to have some ideas as to whether the product will have basic features within my next billing cylce (which starts(ed) tomorrow). If/when the PVP side of the game becomes playable, I may reconsider.

Project: Change this skill to a lightsaber throw that activates instantly and deals instant damage with all the same stats as the project skill. This would be much more immersive, give sages something to use their lightsaber for besides deflecting, and eliminate the delay of project so many of us find frustrating. Seems like it might be a quick fix? Force Wave: Remove the delay. Maybe the animation is just the sage punding their fist toward the ground instead of jumping? Thanks for the consideration.

I, for one, will take this simple (though vague) response from the devs as an offering of peace. I'll slloooooowly move my finger away from the "unsubscribe" button on my tablet screen... though only for a time. Five days left before this month runs out and I need to make a choice. Let's get some more information soon, please. Oh, and thank you for showing us that you're reading these boards. I see you typed "transfers".... so hopefully that means you are listening to the rather abundant voices here.

Devtracker sighting! Looks like there could be some news coming soon on server transfers. Prepare for vagueness.... but it's something: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=4397408#edit4397408

Now look what you've done. I'm lowered myself to bumping any thread on this topic. My feeling is that at least some response stating that we are being heard.. along with a goal statement of getting to it within weeks rather than months.. will make me feel much better about things. /sign

Wow.. this is the first thread I have seen with 100% useful replies and no flaming. To the replies... thanks for your responses. Understanding these mechanics is very helpful. I wasn't sure that you could get 360 degrees of 20% protection with the cover shield... though it was directional from the front. Bummer to hear abou the bugs with rolling to cover. If I ever roll and alt, it will be a cover class. Hopefully it's fixed by then.

I'll give it a bump if this is THE thread for getting the community's voice alligned. BW, please expedite server transfers and cross wz queue. I'm a soon-to-be father. For those brief moments I log on, I would like to get into back-to-back WZ's. That's far from happening now. I LOVE this game... but I can't convince my wife to let me continue to pay for it each month if I'm sitting at my desk with my feat up in front of my computer NOT playing. Bioware Kenobi... you're my only hope.

I've been studying up on cover and how it works in PVP. In many videos, I don't see snipers/gunslingers rolling into natural cover... only popping their portable shields. Anyone know why? My understanding of the system is that they get better defense from natural cover than their shield... so what am I missing?

Someone in another Sage Class thread came up with the perfect fix for this. As a sage, we don't get to use our lightsaber all that much. So: - Change name of Project to Lightsaber Throw - Keep all damage, casting time, et. al. stats as they are so it behaves just like project (minus the delay) - Take the lightsaber throw animation that already exists in the game and insert here - Lore: Yoda, a consular, throws his lightsaber into the chest of a clone trooper while he leaps after it. Boom. Very quick fix. We are no longer throwing junk around. Simple fix (not a programmer... but it seems like ti should be...).

Yes, this same situation has happened to me several times. I think all of them that I can remember being more annoyed at were during a huttball match and usually involved fire or acid. It seems like an easy fix, but I'm not a programmer. It definitely makes me feel like I got the short end of the stick. if the wave doesn't go off because someone else got to it first and mine is delayed... at LEAST don't have it go on cooldown.

For me, the fun with the Sage comes with your utility as a PVP'er. You may not one-shot enemies, stand forever under an onslaught of damage and never die, etc. But, you WILL feel as though you can signle-handedly stall a group of enemies about to cap with your CC, dps, and annoying kiting. I find that I regularly feel as though the outcome of matches rests with the strategic decisions that I make... not on the number of times I spam a button.

To respond to the OP's subject, I think the best idea presented here for making a sage feel like they are getting some use out of their lightsaber is to replace the Project animation with a lightsaber throw. AWESOME idea. The Project skill, specifically it's animation delay and the silly items it throws, aren't loved by the majority who play sages it seems. So, remove the delay, change the name from Project to Lightsaber Throw, keep the same damage and specs for casting (instant), and let us watch our lightsaber shoot through the air toward our foe. Everyone will remember Yoda (a consular) tossing his wee blade into the chest of a clone trooper while he hopped after it. Bioware.... PRETTY PLEASE!!

/sign

Now this is the post I have been waiting for. A solid deter rant. Just need to spec for it. Great job for sharing.

The most helpful thing that I did when preparing for some serious PvP was to watch a ton of videos on youtube on my class. Seach for post 1.2 (insert class here) pvp and see what others do. Sometimes you see some bad things... other times you will see some pretty flawless playing. I learned a TON by watching... and it removed the completely frustrating feeling you can get when trying to do something without any background information.

When you say "rock-shock", do you mean forcequake? Have you found that useful in moments when you aren't using it to prevent a cap? (the only real situation I use it for these days).

Anyone else here old enough to remember Diablo1? OMG the cheats.

I believe you misunderstood me. I was looking down on you because you were being a little bit rude and cocky in my otherwise civil thread. You could be the smartest SWTOR player in the world... but with a delivery like this.. the world will never know it. Just a thought, my friend.

Hybrid spec while I experiment in case the masses who call out "balance!" have missed something. I have not grabbed force wake on my current spec, though have used it before 1.2. Can you explain a scenario where that skill will make or break me?

Thanks for the advice.. though I am DPS spec, not healing. Does your guide cover DPS? As you can see by my typing, no whining here. I did NOT say there wasn't sarcasm.

Best news I've heard all morning. *sings a lullabye* Go to sleepp.. go to sleeepp.. Ok.. who else has some ideas for me?

THIS^^^ Just five seconds or so is all that is needed. Great idea! Well done!

I know it's hard to believe.. but this isn't a complaining thread. I'm asking about tactics in a specific situation. I've won.. and lost in this siutation. Just wondering how others have handled it. So.. please put your gun down and don't hurt me

Yes... this has been a familiar experience for me. Not complaining, but it does feel like there is no escape if you are playing a competent opponent.

*Gives him his cup of meds and tucks him into bed* Thanks, but you can leave my thread now... really.I just don't think I can learn from such awesomeness. Anyone else have any ideas to help me out here?